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Gypsio III
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Posted - 2008.11.05 00:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Also, anyone tested stealth bombers to see if their Explosion Radius bonus is more significant under the new system? A surprise SB buff as a consequence of these changes would be nice to see.
Well, it kinda depends on your point of view.
Firstly, TQ interceptors at speed are currently immune to SB Cruise. With the new formula, a 5.2 km/s Ares will take 6% damage from CN Cruise and 13% from Precision Cruise. That's better, but it's not exactly a lot. 
On the other hand, since explosion radius/target sig ratios are now important, you have options. If you fit dual Rigour rigs, dual PWNAGE and pop a standard Crash booster, those numbers go up to 28% and 41%, respectively, which is more useful.
But I can't help feel that such a dedicated fit should deserve to be a bit better than that...  |
Gypsio III
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Posted - 2008.11.05 09:45:00 -
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Stealth Bomber ≠ Cruise Raven. 
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Gypsio III
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Posted - 2008.11.05 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Vigaz
EDIT:if you want to see how ceptors are immune in tq, I can post more than 20 kills SB vs Ceptor the tricky is web -90% speed & full dmg from alpha strike
Which will work just as well after the patch. Duh.
And as you can see, you don't actually need Precision. It helps, sure, but it's not essential. And now you'll be able to actually damage interceptors that are at speed. So what exactly are you whining about? It's huge boost to the SB against an interceptor.
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Gypsio III
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Posted - 2008.11.05 12:02:00 -
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How can you not notice that it now impossible for any frigate target to casually avoid all SB Cruise damage just by hitting MWD?
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Gypsio III
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Posted - 2008.11.05 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Vigaz
So at the end of the day the SISI situation means huge nerf to SB, there isnt a tattic that let you use full aplha strike on any frig. no metter of isk/SP.
Fail.
Triple painter, dual Rigour, standard Crash. Damage (%) from CN, Precision:
5.2 km/s MWD interceptor: 40%, 55%
3.8 km/s MWD Rifter: 100%, 100%
2.3 km/s MWD Ishkur: 100%, 100%
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Gypsio III
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Posted - 2008.11.05 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: Gypsio III on 05/11/2008 15:04:26
I used Stafen's missile damage formula - you can find it on the first page of this forum, I expect. Max skills - and max speed - were assumed, both for GMP and Sig Foc, but also for the targets (so Acc Ctrl V, Inties V, etc. Yeah, it's not realistic but switching them to IV and dropping to 90% speed should give similar results.
Hmmm, I may have a problem with the inty MWD-sig-bloom-reeduction bonus not being calculated properly. I'll get back to you on this. 
Edit, yeah, noob maths error, SB Cruise damage against MWDing inties at speed is a lot lower, around 14%/23% for CN/Precision, even for comedy Rigour-rigged, triple-PWNAGE, Standard Crash SB. That's really really too low for a dedicated fit, boost pls. 
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